Tuesday, April 12, 2011
Starting the deck
Saturday, March 19, 2011
Start me up!
My strategy for starting up the spa was to energize one of the three systems at a time. I would check the waterfall, circulation system and jet pump individually in case there were any problems. There was a lot of pollen and small debris floating on the top of the water, but it was time to flip on the breaker for the waterfall pump and see if it worked.
The waterfall has a suction line from the spa, a line to and up the back wall of the spa to the waterfall manifold built into the wall, and a bypass line back to the spa in order to adjust the water flow out of the waterfall. I opened all of the valves to begin with, and flipped on the breaker with a broom handle. I looked the other way, too. I don’t like that kind of electrical stuff.
No sparks. I went and turned on the waterfall.
Nothing. No wait, there is something. It works! And it didn’t just work, it worked perfectly! I adjusted the bypass until the water fell from the wall in a steady, clear sheet of water that entered the spa water with the sound of, well, a waterfall.
With the waterfall working, I knew I should energize the rest of the equipment to begin the filter circulation and clean the spa water. I flipped the breaker (again with the broom handle) and the system was on! Once the priming mode had passed it immediately began to circulate and heat the water.
As part of the start up mode, all of the systems would automatically turn on for a short period to be checked. On came the blower. Bubbles. Lots of bubbles. Wonderful bubbles!
Lastly came the spa jets. They came on and worked for a while, but then I noticed 3 small steady squirts coming from the wet end of the pump. This can’t be good. I stopped the pump, and the jets didn’t come back on when I tried them later. The pump would turn on, but no water came out of the jets.
This was the first weekend in March. I spent the next few days corresponding with Gene The Spa Guy, trying to figure out what was wrong with the pump, other than the leaks in the wet end housing that I knew I would probably have to get replaced.
I flipped off the breaker to the control unit, closed the valves and disconnected the pump from the plumbing lines. I moved it to where I could work on it. I know nothing about pumps.
I took off the housing to inspect the impeller to see if it had somehow become disconnected and spinning freely. It hadn’t. While I had the housing off I decided to try and fix the leaks with my new favorite product-Plast-aid. After all, it is suppose to work on various plastics, and the housing appeared to be some sort of composite. I could see the crack causing the leak. It was small and it appeared to be in a place that I could reach from the inside as well as the outside. This could save me a lot of trouble and expense if it worked. I prepared the solution and made the patch on both sides of the housing which has held so far.
Still no solution to the pump mystery. I reinstalled the pump, opened the valves, flipped the breaker, pushed the pump button and heard the motor go on, but the water stood still. The problem with the pump didn’t make sense to me. How could it work to start with, then turn on but not be pushing any water?
I had Tommy brush away any debris from the suction covers. I tried aiming a garden hose into the suction line. I tried to remove the suction cap, but I was unsuccessful.
Gene had reminded me that the pump had to be below the water line in the spa to work. I had installed the pump below where I thought the water line would be, way before there was water in the spa. Perhaps it was not below that line. It would not work if it was even slightly above that line, because air would be present in the plumbing. If I could somehow purge the line of the air it would work regardless of if it was actually above the water level.
Tommy and I were trying to work our way through this when I told him the possible problem with the location of the pump above the water line. To which he suggested “Why don’t you just raise the water level in the spa?” It really is amazing I've gotten this far on my own.
Why does that seem so elementary now? I put some more water in the spa, but it still didn’t work yet. “Take the suction side plumbing off of the pump and open the valve until the air is flushed out and the water flows” he said. Well, he was on a role, and the least I could do was humor him, even though I knew there was obviously water in the line because it had leaked. So I did what he said and opened the valve after I'd taken the line off of the motor. Out came this huge burst of air before the water. I did it again, and again air preceded the water, but not as much. I hooked it back up with great anticipation.
What a moment we had together when that motor turned on and pushed beautiful water through the jets. We had a working spa.
After nearly two years I had to stop and think for a moment. Have I forgotten something? Then it softly hit me. It was done.
Monday, March 14, 2011
I found a leak or two
Fast forward past this entry to the good news in the next entry that the spa is done and working great if you don't wish to read sad stories about your friend Ted.
It has been 2 months since I started finding and fixing leaks. I'm not at liberty to say how many leaks I found and fixed. Let's just say there were more than a few, and I've gotten pretty good at finding them and fixing them. I guess I won't have any of you asking me to help you with any new plumbing!
The leaks are still a mystery to me. They were all sort-of seeping type leaks-not enough in many cases to even drip, but just seep around the unions where the pvc pipes were supposed to be glued together. I don't know if it was the glue (yeah right), or perhaps it was a matter of not getting enough leverage to handle the larger plumbing. I had to make multiple connections at times, but there were leaks in other places too. I had meticulously planned out, measured, dry fitted and primed every piece. But let's face it, I did a shitty job.
When I found a leak I would go about fixing it the same way. I identified which size pipe was leaking, usually either a 1 1/2" air line (that's correct-water is in the air line when air isn't-surprised me too) or a 2" water line. I cut a 1/2" wide ring from the next bigger pipe, then cut through it so it would snap over the smaller pipe. I also cut a ring out of the next size bigger pipe to go over the seam between the first ring and the fitting. I lowered the water level so the area of the leak would dry, which sometimes took a day. I sanded the pipe and primed everything, then put NEW glue everywhere. I slid on the first ring as tight as I could against the fitting and tightened a hose clamp around it. The glue doesn't stick to the metal clamp, so I could take it off when the glue dried. I put the second ring over the seam between the first ring and the fitting, glued and clamped it.
I fixed all of the leaks in first level, then raised the water and waited. None of my repairs leaked again, but I would find new leaks when I raised the water level.
I got very tired of bailing the water out of the spa to lower the level, and I didn't like wasting the water, so I developed a plan to save it. I cleaned out 3 big trash cans and 4 muck buckets. I bailed the water into these containers on the edge of the spa when I needed to lower the water level, then dumped them back in the spa when I wanted to raise the level.
I worried that the water already in the spa plus the water in and out of the containers would get nasty over the course of the repairs, but it tested fine and I didn't have to drain out all of the water when I started up the spa.
I continued up the 7 levels of plumbing, past the midway point and on to the two highest levels, fixing leaks with a running commentary on my level of plumbing expertise, or lack there of, until I noticed a definite darkening of the dirt where all of the plumbing to the equipment levels out before it attaches to the pumps. Sure enough, there was a significant leak under the remaining dirt that covered these lines, which I thought did not need to be uncovered because they were straight connections that I could not have possibly screwed up. Wrong again.
I bailed out the water until the level was below the leak, and dug out the mud around the area. I couldn't believe what I found. There was a connection to a 45 degree fitting in the line from the jet pump that did not appear to have any primer or glue on it at all, and therefore had literally just pulled apart. Who would be stupid enough to miss that? I had planned it out so precisely to allow all the pipes to come into the equipment with minimal angles that might restrict water flow. So precisely that I couldn’t get to the problem connection. I had to cut the line and add some pipe, but it didn’t leak again.
My confidence in my plumbing work was completely shattered. I decided that I had to be able to see all of the plumbing in case I found more leaks. I removed all of the pea gravel that I had carefully placed over the dirt that covered the lines to the equipment, then I completely dug out the rest of the lines going to the equipment. That doesn’t sound so bad when I read it back to myself, but it was slow work with only a trowel and no leverage. Of course there weren't any other leaks in those lines.
I brought the water level up past the top two plumbing lines only to witness the first leak that I had originally found and fixed was dripping steadily. It turned out to be leaking in a different place than where I had fixed. This leak was coming from a crack in a molded valley underneath the jet housing. This was not the same type of leak as the others, and I would not be able to fix it the same way. I lowered the water level and waited for the area to dry.
I went online to look for something to fix the leak. I found a product that sounded pretty good-almost too good, to use on my type of leak.
Like so many of the experiences that I have had during this project, this product and the man that invented it, turned out to be a good story.
The product is called Plast-aid, and it works by molecularly bonding to many types of plastic products, especially pvc. It’s a 2 part product that begins as a liquid when mixed, then shortly becomes a gel, and finally ends up as hard as a rock!
It got into the crack as a liquid then built on itself when it hardened for strength. No leak.
I decided to try and fix a couple other very slow seepages that showed up after I had filled the water way past their level, but Plast-aid was suppose to work even when water is present. These leaks were in the air lines in the middle level, so I had the idea to start the blower to clear the lines of water to insure a successful repair. I prepared the Plast-aid solution and began to fix the leak. The solution entered and covered the leak, but the blower that cleared the line of water also blew the patch right out of the leak! I turned off the blower and luckily I could still work the patch, so I fixed the leak before the water could displace the patch.
It now appeared that all of the leaks were indeed fixed. I could now focus on energizing the equipment and seeing if this thing would really work. But first I disconnected all of the equipment to put Teflon on all of the threads and Vaseline on all of the O-rings in the compression fittings, so I could make sure they didn’t leak when I opened the valves.
They leaked. But I fixed ‘em.
The time had come to add some electricity.
Monday, January 10, 2011
Testing for leaks
At this point I was very discouraged. I was so meticulous about all of the glue joints. How could there be another leak? What if the leak wasn't in the plumbing? Could the spa itself be leaking after all of the time, trouble and expense I went to so it didn't? I was meticulous about that too. Then what would I do?
The second leak has turned out to be on the lowest level (of course). It is an area that I had to make three simultaneous connections while in a difficult position where I didn't have very good leverage. The connection from the housing to the body going through the spa is crooked and leaks very slowly. I actually suspected that connection when I had a hard time threading the jet housing because of the angle.
It amazes me that a small leak like it appears to be can drip enough to drop the water level after a few days, but so far there does not seem to be any other leaks. The walls are dry and the other connections seem solid.
I’m letting the water drop below the bottom row so the area to be fixed will be dry. Then I plan on filling the spa above each level, observing the water level and checking for any other leaks. Then I can continue to test the system. I can hardly wait to see what that will bring!
Tuesday, December 28, 2010
Electrical
Thursday, November 4, 2010
Ding dong the grout is done
Monday, October 18, 2010
Grouting
Unless you’re really bored and have the time (or interest) to read the following sob story, skip down to the asterisk.
Back in mid September I had my first real failure in the project. I knew that the inside of the spa would require something other than the standard sanded grout because it would be submerged in 104 degree water. Sanded grout would not be waterproof and would require sealing and re-sealing after some time.
After a substantial amount of research I learned that what I required was epoxy grout, which was expensive and had a reputation as being difficult to work with, but would hold up under water and not need to be sealed.
I bought what I thought was about half the epoxy grout I would need for the spa for $125. Like most epoxies, it is two parts that actually needs to be mixed with a third part, standard sanded grout, which creates one batch. According to the instructions, it was important to mix all of each part together because it was measured precisely.
The first problem was that the batch that would cover half of the spa would be workable for 30 to 60 minutes, which I could not do alone. So I bought small plastic containers and meticulously measured out the exact proportions that divided the batch in quarters, figuring that I could do that much by myself in the time allowed.
I bought a new grout float, margin trowel and heavy duty rubber gloves, waited for a clear weekend day and psyched up to start this final step toward the end of this journey.
Fast forward, although it seemed like eternity, about 6 hours and picture me lying on the couch exhausted and angry, because things had not exactly gone my way. Then anger grew into panic. I realized I had to get up and go back into the spa and remove all of the epoxy grout that I had just finished. I knew it wasn’t right and I was never going to use that crap again-let alone finish the spa if I had to do it with that stuff!
I had only done the rear seat and part of the waterfall wall, which is about 25% of what I thought the grout would cover. At that rate the grout was going to cost me over $900.
I had spent most of the time trying to get the grout to stay in the vertical joints, but it would just seep out onto the tile. It became apparent to me that the grout was not going to stay in the vertical joints, so I decided to remove as much as I could by pushing the grout down into the joints and removing the rest. Time was not on my side at this point and I also needed to get the grout off of the face of the tile or it would be ruined. I called Betsy to help, and between us we removed all of the grout from the tile. Everything else that touched the grout was ruined. The trowel, the float, the bucket, the gloves, the sponges and the scrub pads were all history.
Enter the couch epiphany. In addition to the cost and nastiness, the grout would never stay in the vertical joints-I already found that out, and there were a lot of them in my spa! I knew what I had to do before it was too late. I got up and took a screwdriver back into the spa and removed all of the grout. I was thankful to get back to where I was at the beginning of the day without ruining any tile. If I had to remove any tile because the grout could not be removed from the front of the tile it would have taken the waterproofing with it, and I would have been in deep you-know-what!
But I’m a lucky guy. As it turns out, I didn’t like the color of the epoxy grout anyway, I hadn’t ruined anything, I learned a great (albeit expensive) lesson and things were about to get much better. Thank you, Gene!
Gene Trumbull wrote the book on building a spa. No really. He literally wrote the book on building your own spa that I have used to guide me through the entire process. And he found a product to use instead of epoxy grout.
It is a urethane grout called QuartzLock2 made by StarQuartz that is waterproof, premixed, easy to use, and most importantly, stays in the vertical joints. Hallelujah!
There was just one problem. The marketing information declared that it was not for use in a spa. But Gene had used it successfully and I wanted to believe that it would work. I made contact with the manufacturer’s rep, Jorge, and found out that because the product did not have sufficient time in the field in a submerged hot water application, they could not warrant the product or recommend it’s use in a spa application.
I would have considered the product anyway, because the alternative was using a sanded grout and sealing it, which I knew would fail eventually. After all, the spa is waterproof without the grout. It’s just for looks.
But I’m a lucky guy.
Jorge made me an offer I couldn’t refuse. If I would agree to give his company feedback regarding the installation and use of this product in a submerged heated application, he would provide me with grout for the spa.
*For those of you that have just joined us, I’m in the process of grouting the spa with a new urethane product instead of an epoxy grout that proved too difficult for me to use.
I started with a small section on the back of the waterfall, just to get a feeling for the product and the application process. It was pretty warm and I did a little bigger area than I should have. By the time I cleaned the tools and got back to the job the grout took a little longer to clean up than it would have if I had gotten to it quicker. I knew it would wipe off much easier when I didn’t do as large of an area. I took a little grout out when I had to scrub the tile a little bit, but it turned out fine and I would bring it up flush with the tile when I continued. The grout is premixed and worked well in the vertical joints.
I had help from Tommy when I started up again and finished the entire back of the waterfall at one time. I finished the rest of the exterior, including the top of the back wall before I moved to the front of the waterfall wall and down to all of the horizontal surfaces. My strategy was to do the horizontal surfaces like the seats, steps and floor first, because there would be some excess wiped off of the vertical surfaces that would collect in the horizontal surface grout lines unless they were already done and I could just wipe them off of the tile.
I’m now over half way done with the grouting but waiting for dry weather to finish up.